tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4149754204668875532.post2551833862772635306..comments2023-05-13T05:59:51.004-06:00Comments on with arms wide open: the right side of historyrob ghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06074711016726877092noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4149754204668875532.post-23149970353410419042012-12-01T14:27:58.167-07:002012-12-01T14:27:58.167-07:00I think my initial reaction was two-fold:
1. The ...I think my initial reaction was two-fold:<br /><br />1. The initial pane states 'Christians' and seems to include all Christians. (Ha ha.)<br />2. I'm wondering what the line is between encouraging one another (as we are commanded to do) versus judging and condemning (which we are heavily cautioned against).<br /><br />Ideas?<br /><br />AnonalexAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4149754204668875532.post-87612937397500264762012-11-13T12:26:27.348-07:002012-11-13T12:26:27.348-07:00Is your primary concern that the cartoon said &quo...Is your primary concern that the cartoon said "Christians" rather than "some Christians", and thus you feel all Christians were smeared by it?<br /><br />Or is it rather than it's okay to talk about bad things that some Christians did in the past/present but not okay to say similar things about people of certain ethnic groups?<br /><br />If some Chinese people had defended slavery, etc., that would be okay to say. But this blog is not looking at the Chinese community. It is looking at the Christian community which I am part of, and is examining the things that some Christians do (or have done) and the things which the Christian culture (or various subcultures within it -- for example, western middle-class Christians, or orthodox Christians) promotes, communicates, perpetuates, encourages, etc.rob ghttp://exclusionandembrace.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4149754204668875532.post-57386790421355036252012-11-12T13:32:23.967-07:002012-11-12T13:32:23.967-07:00I should be more specific. If the comic said:
Did...I should be more specific. If the comic said:<br />Did you know that Chinese people used to defend slavery, objected to women voting, and support racial segregation?<br />And now they're doing it again with lgbt people?<br /><br />Or... <br />Did you know that people named Rob used to defend slavery, objected to women voting, and support racial segregation?<br />And now they're doing it again with lgbt people?<br /><br />Would that be okay? Why or why not?<br /><br /><br />Is it okay to smear Christians, because some of them smear lgbt people. In some circles, yes. What about replacing 'Christians' with 'Blacks' or with 'Young People' or 'the Elderly' or 'Bankers' or ... whatever. With which of these labels / communities is it okay/fashionable, and which not? Why?<br /><br />AnonalexAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4149754204668875532.post-86766607821446487712012-11-05T10:17:23.829-07:002012-11-05T10:17:23.829-07:00Dear Anonalex:
Would it help if the cartoon had s...Dear Anonalex:<br /><br />Would it help if the cartoon had said "some Christians", to make it clear that it wasn't "all Christians"? <br /><br />I'm not sure about substituting "black people" (etc.) into the cartoon. Certainly there are black Christians who use(d) the Bible to do some of these things, but to simply suggest that an ethnic group used the Bible to do something would not only not be in vogue, but would be too general. And perhaps that was your real point -- that the cartoon was smearing all Christians with these actions because it didn't say "some"??<br /><br />What I wanted to point out with this cartoon, is that just as in the past some Christians used the Bible to defend things which many of us now agree are wrong, some Christians are repeating this mistake by the way they use the Bible to justify mistreatment of gay and lesbian people. And they think that somehow this is different than what was done in the past.<br /><br />Alright, I admit it. I just like to be fashionable, and as this is next to impossible for me to accomplish in my attire (due both to lack of money and poor fashion sense), I find this blog to be a great place to be in vogue.<br /><br />Fashionably yours, and looking forward to your reply,<br /><br />rob g<br />rob ghttp://www.exclusionandembrace.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4149754204668875532.post-66860549135918626532012-11-03T00:23:08.018-06:002012-11-03T00:23:08.018-06:00The same could be said about non-Christians too. ...The same could be said about non-Christians too. Considering how many Christians led the movement against slavery, etc, this seems a very one-sided and biased /critical view that doesn't take into consideration a full range of what was happening.<br /><br />What would happen if you substituted "Black people" for "Christian" in this comic or the text accompanying it? It would still be valid, except you wouldn't be in vogue anymore. Or if you said "Chinese" or perhaps "Indians". You could use "Whites", too, but that would be fashionable these days and thus allowed.....<br /><br />AnonalexAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com